1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby J.Hanepen » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:52 pm

Hi Brian,
Do you know that the website, www.acesofiron.com, gives you a good idea of the different scale sizes.
That is where I got the size of 65mm head from.
On the "product" page at the bottom is a complete list.
Click on it and an other window comes up, put your curser on it and move the wheel of you mouse over it, than the 1/4 and 1/3 scales come up.
Jaap.
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby DH100 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:26 pm

Something wrong here Jaap
I have just done the following exercise.

1/4 to 3rd Scale is 33.3% increase. As an example ... 1/4 of 120mm = 30mm. 1/3 of 120mm = 40mm. So, 30 x 1.333= 39.999mm.

So, 65mm x 1.333 = 86.645mm. These dimensions give a chin to head top of 260mm in real life, which is probably slightly above average. Obviously my measurement of 95mm is incorrect also.

I will have a look at the website you suggest.

Cheers .. Brian
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby DH100 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:39 pm

Yes Jaap, I see the site ... very helpful.

So where to from here?

I could make you a 1/3rd Scale head. Or, I could look at making arms for a 1/4 scale existing pilot figure, but he would look like a pre-teenager in size.

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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby J.Hanepen » Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:42 am

Hi Brian,
You take the view that the length of a male head is 28cm, but I found on the internet that the average size is 22cm. My head measures 22cm as well.
So if we go to 1/3 scale, the size of the pilot head will be 220:3=73mm and a 1/4 scale equals 55mm., so your size of 65mm is somewhere in the middle of these two numbers.
Do you agree, or am I wrong with this calculation.
To make a long story short, your pilot with a size of 65mm is a little shorter from 73mm, but I think that is fine with me and I think it will not look like a preteenager, ha-ha.
Give me an idea what you charge for the arms and I am happy with your 1/4 scale pilot.

I can tell you I am impressed with your pilot model. Did you model it out of clay and made a mould of it later on?
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby DH100 » Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:39 pm

Hi Jaap

I have a 1/4 Scale head of a German chap wearing a WWI leather helmet, not one of the reinforced types. Same dimensions as the one you've seen on this thread. I think that would be more fitting than RAF style head gear?

The head and the body are moulded separately. To make arms that move or are adjustable could take some time. Can you give me an acute measurement of the distance from the seat back to the control column. His right forearm would be extended across and out from his body to the stick. His left should be on the throttle.

I will put a photograph of the head in question up tomorrow ...I call him Herman. The other guy is Charles!

Yes I make them in clay and make either Urethane or Silicon moulds.

Thanks for the kind comments.... Brian
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby DH100 » Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:59 am

Sorry to drag the chains on this Jaap, but here is Herman.

German Pilot Head 25%.jpg


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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby J.Hanepen » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:09 pm

Hi Brian,
I can't get a good impression of Herman. To be honest, I am happy with Charles.
OK, the Bucker Jungmeister is a German plane, but I am flying with this one under the Swiss flag.
So I made up my mind. Please make me a Charles and his arms. Don't fix them to his body, so that I can move them and tell me if I have to pay you in advance.
In the attachment you 'll find the measurement from the back of the seat to the dashboard and hope it is sufficient information to work with.
Cheers,
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby J.Hanepen » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:15 pm

Forgot to submit the drawing.
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby DH100 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:15 am

Hi Jaap
Sorry to drag this out but I have had a few other things on my plate.
As he his, the pilot body has his upper arms attached. I can't remove them. What he lacks is forearms, that is he has no arms from the elbow.

I will make a template of the rest of the arm length required and see how the measurement compares to your drawing. Apologies again for the delay.

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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby J.Hanepen » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:00 pm

Hi Brian,
Don't worry man, first of all, I can fly the plane without a pilot, it took a few years to build the plane and other things are more important, so a few weeks or month more is no problem.
Yes that is what I actually meant, the forearm instead of the whole arm.
Good luck,
Cheers
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