1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby DH100 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:06 am

Hi all

I have been messing around with a pilot torso for some time trying to find an easy to use material. After trial and error(s) with various products I have settled on a "Smooth-on" epoxy putty.

Below is the result of the first out of the mould which I might say is not perfect but very close.
Pilot Torso 1.jpg
Pilot Torso 2.jpg


He is 1/4 Scale and wearing a "B" Type British Helmet. The head is separate and could be made servo controlled.

I also have a WWI German head which I will mould today and a RFC chap in the making.

I'm happy to supply painted or unpainted if anyone out there would like one ... or more.

I have no plans to do full body pilots...lower arms and gloved hands maybe. I'm happy to talk with anyone about the product.

He weighs only 86 grams ..a little over 3 oz. The putty is very light .. it floats, and the wall thickness while irregular probably averages only 3mm. It is pretty sturdy however.

My grand plan, as yet to be executed, is to come up with a range including WWII, early Jet Pilots and civilian. Also 1/5th and 1/3 versions.

I'm not interested in modelling anyone in particular as that requires a different level of skill and time. I take my hat off those who choose that option. However, the vast number of wartime pilots were of course "Joe average".

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Pilot Torso 3.jpg



Above are a couple of pics of a finished article. The painting of the face is an art in itself and I'm no expert at that at this point. But people seem to think they're OK. My photography does him no favours either!

I'm happy to talk if there's interest out there.



Cheers .. Brian
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby J.Hanepen » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:48 pm

Hi Brian,
I joined last week, because I came across your thread.
I build a Bucker Jungmann 1/3 scale and am looking for a pilot.
Your pilot is a 1/4 scale, but according to the pictures and part of your hand, the size is probably not far of.
The size I am after is 255/260mm, chin to top of head.
Please can you tell me the size of your pilot and tell me what you charge for a unpainted and a painted model.
thank you for your cooperation,
Kind regards,
Jaap.

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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby J.Hanepen » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:16 pm

Hi Brian,
The measurements I gave you were totally wrong and must be: 55/60mm.
Sorry about that!
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby DH100 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:45 pm

Hi Jaap

My 1/4 scale measures 65mm from chin to top of head. A "large " human head is regarded as being around 280mm from chin to top. That = 93mm at 1/3rd scale.

I would be happy to provide a either a head or a complete torso. Painted the cost is $55.00 unpainted $35.00. Plus shipping.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks .. Brian
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby J.Hanepen » Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:07 pm

Hi Brian,
Is there a possibility to extend the arms to full length. As you can see in the picture, the pilot need to hold the stick. I can probably do it myself, but don't have the colour of the jacket. The bottom part of the body plus legs are not a problem for me to make.
If this is not possible or to much hassle, tell me.
I like to buy the pilot head plus body, tell me how much I owe you and where to transfer the money.
By the way, do you live in the Waikato area, so that I can pick it up if ready.
I live in Matamata.

Regards,
Jaap.
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby J.Hanepen » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:43 am

Hi Brian,
With these pictures you get the idea that I need a full size body.
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby J.Hanepen » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:45 am

the cockpit
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby J.Hanepen » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:46 am

the cockpit
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby DH100 » Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:31 am

Hi Jaap

1/4 scale will look really small. The head needs to be around 83mm from chin to top. I can add some arms to existing but it would not compliment your beautiful model the way it should.

How about I make a 1/3rd head for you, maybe some hands? The rest could be made in the same way a rag doll is crafted?

Brian
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Re: 1/4 Scale Pilot Torso

Postby J.Hanepen » Fri Mar 21, 2014 2:21 pm

Hi Brian,
If I enlarge the head from 65mm to 93mm, as you suggested, I have to enlarge the body the same way, and that is 143%. The body, as you can see on the enclosed drawing, is 185mm. If I increase this with 143%, the total length of the body plus head will be 357mm.That means the top part of the pilot extends 90mm, and that means that the pilot looks out over the top wing and that is not scale at all.
The pilot on the drawing has a total length of 250mm and when I put it in the seat, his eyes look a couple of mls over the edge of the front of the cockpit.
According to one of the pictures I have of a full-size plane with pilot, the size of 250mm is pretty accurate.
What do you think of this.

Brian if you make the arms, I like to have them separate so that I can move them in the right position.
Am I correct as I say the arms are cut of at the elbows?

Can you tell me by how much the total cost will increase if you make the arms?
Thank you for being so patient with me.
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